Marvel Champions Codex

RulingHall of Heroes (rules 1.7)2026-01-11

So we are hoping to get a better understanding of the triggering conditions of “attacks and damages” and…

Question

So we are hoping to get a better understanding of the triggering conditions of “attacks and damages” and “attacks and defeats” especially in combination with the overkill keyword. Recent discussion from the community is around Caps shield, the Captain Marvel Leader and the Jigsaw minion.

1.Can you steal Caps Shield from overkill damage since you only damaged him but didn’t attack him?

2.Can the Captain Marvel leader get an energy counter from defeating an identity with overkill because she defeated them but didn’t attack them?

3.If Jigsaw attacks with overkill and damages both an ally and an identity, does his ability trigger twice and place 4 threat on Criminal Underworld because two characters were damaged but only one was attacked?

Answer

  • Yes, assuming the attacker used their ATK (e.g. made a basic attack) and that attack had overkill, any damage dealt to the Captain America leader this way would trigger the Forced Response on Cap’s Shield and attach it to the attacker.
  • Yes; if the Captain Marvel character attacks with overkill and defeats both an ally and identity, her Forced Response triggers for both instances, placing 2 total energy counters.
  • Yes; if Jigsaw attacks with overkill and damages an ally and identity, his Forced Response triggers twice and places 4 total threat.

— Alex