Marvel Champions Codex

RulingHall of Heroes (rules 1.0–1.4)

Expansion card questions: Regarding the alteration effect rule added in 1.4 RR. The card “have at thee” in the Valkyrie hero pack,…

⚠ This ruling is from an older rules version (Hall of Heroes (rules 1.0–1.4)) and might be outdated.

Question

Regarding the alteration effect rule added in 1.4 RR. The card “have at thee” in the Valkyrie hero pack, when resolving the card one sentence at a time, it makes it almost impossible to gain overkill because the first sentence would defeat most minions outright who would then be discarded causing death glow to be set aside out of play before you can ever check for the death glow being attached. There are so many examples of the word “if” being in a second sentence in the card pool that either don’t work or don’t seem to be the intention or spirit of the design.

It’s really bothered me and so many others. Do you think “the alteration effect” could be reworked to include the word “if” or rules changed completely to something like “when resolving card abilities, read the entire card to check for situations that could alter the resolution” maybe give an example like “press the advantage” checking for stun or confusion or “have at thee” checking for the death glow being attached” before resolving the card and then applying the things you checked for if applicable. Please please please. There are even encounter card examples with the word “if” where the rules as written don’t seem to go with the spirit of the card and would also benefit from what I’m talking about.

Answer

  • Regarding “Have At Thee!”, we would like you to treat the card as intended: should you use this card, and the enemy it was used on had Death-Glow attached, treat the attack/7 damage as having Overkill and deal the excess damage to the villain.
  • We are going to look into if we want to declare “if” statements in card abilities as also “alteration effects.”

— Alex Werner, FFG Game Rules Specialist