RulingHall of Heroes (rules 1.0–1.4)
Phoenix: We have rulings where the cards attached to Hawkeye’s Quiver, George Stacy, Bruno and Electro (the Iron…
Question
We have rulings where the cards attached to Hawkeye’s Quiver, George Stacy, Bruno and Electro (the Iron Spider’s Sinister Six version) are not actually considered to be in play. (https://hallofheroeslcg.com/latest-ffg-rulings/#63 and https://hallofheroeslcg.com/latest-ffg-rulings/#77) In particular, we have this quote: “Cards attached to Electro (or Quiver) cannot be interacted with outside of the ability on the card they’re attached to, if at all.” What happens to the attached cards when the card they are attached to leaves play? And why? We can’t interact with them, and nothing tells us to discard them or move them in any other fashion. Common sense would say they are discarded, because the card they were attached to has left play. But that is an assumption.
It’s also possible for a card from one player to be attached to a card in another player’s play area. For example, Phoenix’s “Mind Control” can move Electro. This is problematic because even if they are meant to be discarded, if a card is not in play, it cannot leave play to be affected by the Ownership and Control rules in the 1.4 rules reference. So could Player A end up with Player B’s card in their discard pile, and subsequently their deck and then their hand? There are also instances where a side scheme will ask players to put cards beneath it, from your hand/deck, and so presumably they have never entered play either and suffer from the same lack of direction. Long story short, it would be appreciated if we could know where cards A, B and C are meant to go when card D asks them to be attached to itself and later card D is discarded! As well as when placed beneath a side scheme.
Answer
- Each of the cards mentioned would go to their “owner’s equivalent out-of-play area” when the game element they’re attached to left play, regardless of if the attached cards were “in play” when the game element left play. A card that a player (or the scenario) “owns” should never get place in another player’s hand, discard pile, or other out-of-play area.
- There is a rule already under “Attach To” in the Rules Reference specifying that a card attached to another game element will get discarded when the element leaves play, or it’s forced to leave play. While this rule generally assumes the card was an Upgrade or Attachment card type, it would also apply to cards attached through other means.
-Alex