Marvel Champions Codex

RulingHall of Heroes (rules 1.0–1.4)

Expansion card questions: Hi, can you help me with some confusing timing? Example situation: I’m playing Drax and have both the…

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Question

Hi, can you help me with some confusing timing? Example situation: I’m playing Drax and have both the Weakened obligation from the Kang scenario pack and my Too Stubborn To Die card in play. I have 1 hp and use my basic THW to remove the last threat from a scheme, then take the damage from Weakened. I trigger Too Stubborn to Die and it saves me, putting me into alter-ego form. Can I then play Turn the Tide? It requires my hero to have removed threat, and I believe the entirety of the basic thwart did conclude while I was in hero form. Weakened is a Forced Response to using a basic power. Too Stubborn to Die is a Hero Interrupt. Turn the Tide is a Response. I believe that Weakened and Turn the Tide share a timing, since one responds to the use of a basic power and one responds to thwarting, but your basic power can be thwarting and, in this case, it is. And, since they seem to share a timing and we’ve only done relevant interrupts and responses, the response window is still open by the time we get to alter-ego and want to Turn the Tide. Is this correct? Can we use Turn the Tide from alter-ego with this chain of events? Thank you so much!

Answer

Short answer, yes, we believe that you can play Turn the Tide in the situation described. You thwarted while in hero form, and you have the right to play Turn the Tide in response to that thwart, it’s just that the window for doing so happens to occur once the Forced Response on Weakened and the Hero Interrupt on Too Stubborn to Die both resolve.