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SPDR/Iron Spider’s Sinister Six mod: I’m a little confused about SP//DR and couldn’t see the answer in her insert. When I flip Peni Parker t

⚠ This ruling is from an older rules version (Hall of Heroes (rules 1.0–1.4)) and might be outdated.

Question

I’m a little confused about SP//DR and couldn’t see the answer in her insert. When I flip Peni Parker to SP//DR, SP//DR says ‘When you flip to this side flip SP//DR suit to active side. Attach this card to SP//DR suit moving all counters on this card or cards attached to this card to SP//DR suit’. Are Status Cards counters? I’ve not known them to be referred to as counters before, but I can’t see any other ‘counters’ that Peni Parker would be assigned in her kit or the aspect cards she is packaged with. If status cards are not counters how does this work? If you are confused in alter ego form, are you no longer confused when you flip to hero form but then become confused again when flipping back to alter ego? When you flip SP//DR suit to inactive, SP//DR suit inactive says ‘When you flip to this side flip SP//DR to Peni Parker. Detach Peni Parker from here moving all counters on her or cards attached to Her to this card’ So all counters or cards attached to Peni Parker (which were picked up while she was on her SP//DR side) are transferred to the SP//DR suit inactive.

There is nothing to say that counters or cards attached to your SP//DR suit identity should be transferred to your Peni Parker Identity is this correct? If attachments are not transferred to Peni Parker when you flip to alter ego, can Peni Parker still benefit from cards attached to SP//DR suit like honorary avenger for example which gives her +1 HP and the avenger trait, or will she only get these bonuses in hero form? What cards or counters could be attached to the SP//DR upgrade to be transferred to the SP//DR suit when you flip to alter ego? Again, I can’t see any cards in her kit which would be attached to an upgrade or add counters to the SP//DR upgrade. If status cards are counters, then it seems that if you are stunned, confused or tough in hero form your stun/confused/tough status would stay on SP//DR suit when you flip to alter ego is this correct? Does this mean that if SP//DR suit is stunned, confused or tough and you flip to alter ego form Peni Parker is no longer Stunned, confused or tough and you ignore the status card until you flip to hero form again?

Assuming that status cards are transferred from Peni Parker to SP//DR suit when you flip to hero form, but they aren’t transferred between SP//DR Suit and Peni Parker when you flip to alter ego; if there is a stunned status card on SP//DR suit and Peni Parker gets stunned what happens when Peni Parker flips to hero form? Since there is already a stunned status on SP//DR suit you couldn’t transfer the stunned status you picked up in alter ego to SP//DR Suit so is it discarded?

Answer

  • Status cards are placed onto “characters”, so for SP//dr that means it’s applied to her identity cards. For instance, if SP//dr Suit (Hero) received Tough, then flipped to Alter-Ego, Peni Parker would then be the one that had Tough. Status cards are not counters and are also not considered “attached.”
  • As written, Honorary Avenger would be attached to a “character”, so to SP//dr’s current identity card, either the Hero or Alter-Ego cards. If attached to the Hero, then flipped to Alter-Ego, Honorary Avenger would remain attached to SP//dr Suit’s Inactive side, as instructed. The Suit wouldn’t receive any effect from Honorary Avenger while Inactive because it’s not a character then.
  • Since you had a lot of connected questions in your email, feel free to send a follow-up if there’s a specific one that wasn’t addressed.

-Alex